77 GET’S HER 2008 MAKEOVER

 

77 GET’S HER 2008 MAKEOVER

77 GET’s HER 2008 MAKEOVER

As she was when she first arrived

With a somewhat depleted Museum and workshop it is time to give the 77 TY Yam her 2008
makeover. I have been meaning to fit the “back and down” Miller footrests and also the WES Pipe.
So this last weekend it was time to wheel her out of her prestigious corner slot and see the light
of day again.

A double win at Perris 2005

The last time she had a major outing was 2005 when she won the very wet Perris double header
and we sank up to the axels in the mud in the RV!! I think her last ride was Diamond Don’s when
I was as sick as a Parrot and could hardly walk 10 paces without having to take a rest.

Diamond Don’s 2005

So the plan is the new footers, new pipe and convert a TY175 seat, which I had professionally
recovered in purple before I discovered it is smaller than the TY250 in length and therefore won’t
fit on the standard hangers. Nothing a little alloy bracket can’t fix and when in situ looks a lot
neater.

Let battle commence!

First up off with the old seat, chrome pipery and the old flat wide footrests. Now time for the
Makita as you must cut the old hangers off flush with the frame. This frame being a 77 has the
studded lower frame rail whereas some of the “434” frames do not unless you are lucky enough to
get a “CAT” model which had the forward rests and that long brake pedal. If you have a non
studded frame then use one long threaded bolt all the way through and put a self locker at each
end. Other things, if you are planning this yourself make sure your swinging arm bolt is long
enough, yes they come in different lengths, as the brackets are quite thick.

Removing the old footrest hangers

Makita, Makita !

Yes, they will fit

Unless you want to take the entire back end of the bike to bits the best way to go is use another
SA bolt or front wheel spindle and tap the old out and then hold the package together while you
either clean the old one or fit the new. Some of the older bolts unfortunately do seize solid in the
bushings so if it won’t come out easily sometimes drastic measures have to be taken! ….. and I
have resorted to the Saw! The bushings can also swell and are better than locktite and no amount
of force will shift them.

The new exhaust system doesn’t have a flange mount with it??? How annoying and I don’t really
want to chop the old one in two as its in very good shape. Also annoying is the fact I threw a
beaten up system in the trash not so long ago and now I’m minus that flange. I think I will cut the
frame ends off and just go for a brace under the alloy mudguard which will also strengthen it a bit.
Everything else looks good on the bike so unless I do a strip down and respray (which I might)
this should be a quick (Ho, Ho) job.

The respray and color change is becoming more appealing, might do the frame pearl silver, purple
barrel, purple cables, a lot of repolishing, I think the final “mind’s eye” picture looks good. It is
after all a really nice bike and I would like to ride it more so this might be the way to go.

2 days with the power tools and a conveniently found piece of 1/4 inch steel and after drilling
round a series of little circumference holes the middle falls out and the filing begins! Then out with
the Makita and shape the outside, beginning to feel like a bronze age hunter crafting things out
of flint but eventually I’m getting close despite the workshop looking like a coal mine with metal
filings and Makita dust everywhere. The respray job is looking more and more like a go ahead
although Madam is asking why?

Well as I can rebuild a Yam in about 3 hours from scratch, and Sunday is not an “Ebay” day, let
battle commence. Might even get round to fitting those main bearings in the TY175 then she can
go on the “For Sale” list. So if any of you are out there and have any old scrap trials bikes DO LET
ME KNOW!

Today its Silver Blue

It got the total respray make over. Rapid dissassembly and I’m spraying before noon. Now while
the frame is drying in 112, I’ll take the head and barrel off and give the barrel the purple treatment.
Then it will be cable time and just a little patience before the rebuild. Should have her finished by
Wednesday. Just spent a little time repolishing the brake hubs. These being Magnesium they look
fantastic when clean but they oxidize very quickly and in retrospect I wouldn’t do it again.

Hubs polished and ready

Another day and thanks to running backwards and forwards to MVD nothing on the bike front
accomplished other than to spray the barrel and about 30 mins cutting back the fins. Just need to
finish off with a fine grit and it will look better than a Harley.

The Barrel in Purple

Very pretty and now it is Wednesday so time to bolt up the motor again and get as much done as
I can before we have to move on with our other plans and set off for Dolores again at 0600
tomorrow. Crack of dawn and I’m in the relative cool working on phase 1. Motor done, now in with
the ballbearings, 19 on the bottom, 22 on the top and the yokes are in. Next up the rear brake
pedal which unless you fit at this stage is a real bu%%## to get in.

The swinging arm goes in along with the new “footers” and finally the shocks. Now, with the
engine on the floor just side manoeuvre the frame round it and “hey presto” the engine is in and
the bolts are all lined up. Bash plate on and now I can lift the whole package up on the stand.

Rebuild phase 1

Handlebars, and front end all completed at this stage I at least have stability and I can quickly
tidy up on some of the smaller items. Chain guard and tensioner, and swing over for the brake
cable and sidestand. Last bit for the morning is the coil and that will be enough for 2 hours work.

2 hours later

Now with most of the easy reconstruction done time time to redo the ignition, clean the carb and
replace all tubing with magic purple. Next, time to use the reformed old splash guard and reshape
the alloy fender and mount it over the old Ty250A fender brace as I have sawn off the rear frame
loop and neatly finished the tubes with blanks from ACE hardware.

The heart of the Purple People Eater

Back wheel in and chain back on and now time to see how the new WES pipe will work out.
Standard piece of radiator hose and a couple of clamps. My new flange mount works and for a
first time “Billet” job I’m quite pleased with the result. Now reshape a brake anchor stay and that
will hold the tailpipe in place. The kicker now rubs the new Pipe so move it forward about 10
degrees and another problem resolved.

All my own work! the billet flange

The TY175 seat finally secured

At this point time to work out how to fit the purple recovered TY175 seat which I’m determined
to use. Well its about 3 inches shorter and although it will go over the frame rails I have to
remove all the mounting brackets and refabricate my own. It’s 1800 and the job is done and I’m
pleased. The nightime photography tends to make the frame a bluer color than it really is but
overall the colors seem to go together well. You of course might not like it?

1800, and I’m done !

The new WES pipe

Ready for action

Neat and slim and the Yams nice too

Tony Down     with another BLACKCAT makeover

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THE 2008 SEASON, SECOND HALF

THE 2008 SEASON, SECOND HALF

THE 2008 SEASON, SECOND HALF

Amazingly here we are half way through the season and time to cast the mind back to see where
we have been and where we are going.

A Chilly morning in AZ

The season opened at the new venue in Buckeye in February and despite all the reservations
about working in a sandpit we did actually have a pretty good event regardless of the “Spoilt Brat”
behaviour of our rival event just down the road. There is certainly plenty of scope here for a 2 day
event next year, without crossing lines with MX or Cross Country.

Wet & Muddy at Diamond Don’s

Diamond Don’s has so much terrain it never ceases to amaze me how we always get screwed by
Cross Country! A long way to go for a one day trial, maybe a 2 day in the future or, if not, it just
might fall off my schedule.

Warm & Dry at the new Perris

Not much here, but enough

Perris, umm! what can we say about this venue? Close to home, well inside 400, very limited in
real estate but what there is can make a good trial. However it’s not the old Perris we know and
the sections for the future can only be variations on this years theme.

A Great Trial, Tucker Ranch Cotopaxi

A CLEAN at last ! Section 1 Cotopaxi

Cotopaxi, perfect location, tons of sections available and unexplored. Fantastic setting and
atmosphere and well worth the drive.

First Ride for the “Oilfield” Milliken Co

It handled nicely for a Bulldozer

Milliken, a fun event and nice location. A long way for me but enjoyable nontheless.

Casey and Marion just too far even for a 2 day.

Donner, Oh Donner!

More fun on the RE at Donner

Donner, great trials in idyllic surroundings and a must for every season.

Mid Ohio, once again just too far away to be worth the drive.

So, what have we got to come? Chehalis in August which we did last year and although the actual
trial was enjoyable enough with a great turnout in a nice location the attitude did not make for a
great event. If you can’t ride round and view the sections or test your machine with a little light
practice and every time you move you are being “Policed” it does not create an atmosphere that
says drive 1600 miles to be there! Regrettably this one is now firmly crossed off the calendar.

That moves us along to what potentially promises to be the best week of the year with the 3 Day
Casper Spectacular 30/31 Aug and 1 Sep. Then a “transit” day and 2 days off before the 2 Day at
Salt Lake on 5/6 Sep. This is almost unheard of, 5 trials in a week! Better have the “A” Game
turned on for this one! Now having looked at distances and travelling it would seem sensible to just
move directly to Sandia for their event  after a rest and laundry day back in Dolores.

Rivers, mud, and rocks….. in August!

Later in the month there is the AHRMA/ITSA 2 Day at Ginder Ranch TN, which we did last year. A
good event in some great trials country but today with the cost of fuel it would cost around $3500
to do just that event!

Casper and Donner are maybe my 2 favorites and Casper may have the edge as it has so much
variety with dry rock and loose dirt sections on one side of the site and then the rivers and rocks
by the start area and the rocks and mud up the hill leading over to the woods and nadgery sections.
3 days of this and I’ll be in 7th Heaven.

No idea what Jim Lipscombe has in store for us, but I’m sure it will be good, as long as he hasn’t
put those “boxes” in. Jim? did you hear me….. JIM?

Sandia has a rather special place this year as Mick Andrews will be there and may, just may, ride
one of my bikes, we will see.  The event was in the past a bit limited but last year a new section of
land was put into use and provided the much needed variety but either way as a technical trial I
have always enjoyed it.

With no Dickson for us this year we just have Hollister and Napa Valley to round off the season
and I can’t see Brenda forgoing this one under any circumstances!……. especially as it will be
OUR aniversary!

Well I do get another slice of cake.

Looking forward to the “Big Week”

Tony Down -3 puppies only 2 left!

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  • 8/12/2008 9:06 PM David Armstrong wrote:
    As far as Chehalis goes, well welcome to Seattle! Sorry!
    I hate that you can’t ride around a bit but I do love the trial itself.
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MORE MADNESS IN DOLORES

MORE MADNESS IN DOLORES

MORE MADNESS IN DOLORES

“Blue Moon…….”

  Late arrival on Tuesday and forgetting the 1 hour time change by the time we had unloaded the
coach and got all the dogs established we had missed the Pool and the catering at the Hollywood
so the day was done. Never mind we are here until next Monday morning so plenty of time to get
a few games in.

Parked again

The Cozy Comfort Cocktail Club has had some T Shirts made and it seems to be a summer tradition
that several members meet for a “Breakfast Beer”……? A little early for me but each to their own.
The rest period allows me to catch up on posting ebay articles again and by the time we get to
Saturday I can almost get in the trailer. The new wreck is slowly dismantled and parts are duly
photographed and listed.

Baskets doing well

Wednesday we make our appointed pool slot and all goes very well with some good frames and
some of the old magic returning. Brenda is improving rapidly so Dolores and Mancos BEWARE if we
end up there post the fall!

Harley ready for action

Thursday more GT’s and Pool and then Friday becomes a rest day before a planned ride on the
Harley on Saturday. We decide to explore the local area and try and find the way out of the valley
to Mc Phee Reservoir. This takes us down our side street then turn right and run up the cliff road
before setting off inland through some magnificent bends. A few cattle grids to get “madam”
airborne on and The Screamin Eagle gets another screamer from the back seat.  Some superb
bends I have to say and with a bit more experience and local knowledge they will become a lot of
fun. Back from the Lake on the reverse run, just as much fun, and stop at the Hollywood and meet
up with a decicated bunch of bikers all travelling wifeless from Michigan to who knows where.

First time ever up the cliff road behind CC

Real fun bends

Cattle Grid!

15 miles of non-stop fun

But Wait,…… there’s more

Coming back to town

Down the cliff road

That was it for the Harley, and a fun ride it was too. So back to CC and start packing bikes various
before the big fun day of Sunday which has been designated as “Lucille’s Wake”. Of course she
isn’t dead yet, far from it, and for 86 she must be the sprightliest woman I have ever met.

Jim  in good form

Brenda’s partner, Lloyd, by the balloon infested pole

Sunday morning Jim and Lucille arrive bang on time and off we go to the Columbine in Mancos.
Balloon blowing, country music a’plenty and the Pool competition with a draw for partners. Plenty
of drinks and nibblies and now the pool competition is in full swing. Brenda is playing with Lloyd
and I’m playing with Peggy who has never played before. Brenda and Lloyd win their first round
and I’m playing like a lemon with one eye closed! We are in serious trouble with 4 balls left and
they are about to sink the 8! Well, they miss and now its Peggy who responds to coaching and as
I point to exactly where to strike the object ball she knocks them all in one after another……!!!!!!

A break between frames

Our next round is against Wayne and Vonnie who somehow or other have drawn each other?
Oh well, this should be over quickly but after a normal start and 3 balls in they miss and Peggy
once more bangs in a series and then they get 2 but then miss. I clean up for the win!! Brenda and
Lloyd are still winning but Brenda is making most of the shots.

Partner Peggy on the right

We are now up against Brenda and Lloyd who has woken up or shaken off his hangover and is
playing some great shots. Well we can’t do much about this one. However this gives us a
Championship decider as we are in a “semi final”

Our amazing run of luck continues in game 4 when the opposition sink the 8 by accident.

So we are now in the final and play Brenda and Lloyd once more. Not much change in this one
although we did have one slim chance for the win. So Brenda takes home her first Pool win of the
Colorado season.

The “Winner” with her spoils

The food was good and some nice dishes in the pot luck section. We then released the helium
balloons which carried on climbing into the heavens save for the ones Jim released which draped
the power lines like a pair of the proverbial dog’s……….. Great fun was had by all and Lucille
RIDES AGAIN!

Nice one Jim!

Lucille, 86 and still going strong!  ……. wake indeed!!!

Tony & Brenda    on location in Dolores

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  • 8/7/2008 12:56 AM Gerry wrote:
    i check your site daily hoping for a new story and its like xmas day when there is! Love the photography and the detailed stories. Keep them coming!!!
    p.s. i’ve really enjoyed some of the milatary/war stories, as im just going in for my heli license and like to hear about flying stories.
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  • 9/5/2008 10:49 PM Steveo wrote:
    Hi Tony,just back from a 3 week “walkabout”with bike.It was Great,though it would seem that you guys beat me when it comes to playing lots!All of the best!
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DONNER TO DOLORES

DONNER TO DOLORES

DONNER TO DOLORES

Sunday afternoon the last 2 RV’s

Looking up the slopes with the last few drinks

Post trial the rest of Sunday was spent relaxing and packing up all the bikes and equipment
including the “wreck” acquired from Fred. Ed and Evelyn had also elected to stay one more night
and then head off for Montana on the Grandchildren visit.

Monday and a fresh start on the 907 mile run to Colorado. Today it’s all I80 and after the descent
to Reno it is a gorgeous road all the way to Salt Lake. As I’m driving I can see something flapping
in the mirror and despite two stops to investigate nothing is found. On the third stop it seems two
metal self tapping screws securing the radiator grille have given up the ghost. As I don’t have a
pop rivetter with me it’s good old Duck Tape and we will have it fixed when they do that hub cap
and the bathroom door.

Not really much to say about the journey other than we make nearly 600 before taking the night
stop just south of Salt Lake. It looks like we went fairly close to where Jim Lipscombe’s event will
be in September. Very impressive coming through the gap at Wendover as it becomes a vista of
white. Can’t imagine what the early settlers must have thought going the other way. Ok so what
other than gambling happens at Wendover?

The Very Scenic Route 6

Now this would be good on the bike!

Post night stop a very scenic drive through the Mountains following route 6 until turning south for
Moab. The road has a long section under repair and we sit patiently for a good 15 mins with nothing
happening and nobody coming the other way. Eventually a pilot car arrives and then a stream of
traffic. Now it is our turn and we set off for 7 miles of nothing, not a cone, not a piece of construction
equipment, just 7 miles of completely finished new road, white lines, yellow lines, no workers, in fact
absolutely NOTHING , save for another flag man at the other end… don’t ask!

Entering Moab

The site of Jim Lipscombe’s Trial 2006

Coming into Moab from the North we go by the site of Jim Lipscombe’s “Rumble in the Red Rocks”
which was a quite remarkable feat to organise a trial at short notice on a few excavated piles of
rocks from a hotel. Wonderful site, a 200 yard loop with 9 sections! Strangely enough you could still
see some of the lines.

Sections 8 and 9

On through the bustling small town, colorful with flowers, and full of 2 wheel fanatics mainly of the
unpowered kind. Further on more road works and delays as we approach Monticello before turning
to Dove Creek and onward to Dolores. Thoughts of the Hollywood and Pool and burgers are soon
shot down as we realise there is a “time change”. Never mind we are here!

Tony Down      Don’t forget all the AHRMA photos of Donner, Cotopaxi and Milliken
all for sale on Brenda’s web

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STOP OR NO STOP

 

STOP OR NO STOP

STOP OR NO STOP

MY GOD ! He’s using that clutch!!!

Trials Central had a debate going on reference the relative merits of the skills required to ride Stop
or No Stop Events and this has naturally wandered on and off topic until it can often mislead the
reader as to what is actually being discussed. I thought I would air my views on the subject along
with the changes of the “rules” as I have seen them through the years.

Going back to trials, as it was, it was fairly simple in so much that an area was either naturally
gated, like a gorge, or artificially taped off as boundaries that couldn’t be crossed with a gate
marker thrown in to show the competitor where the route went and in some cases powdered
chalk was also used. This was our “SECTION”. From the time your front wheel spindle crossed the
imaginary line between the OBSERVED SECTION BEGINS cards until it did the same at the
OBSERVED SECTION ENDS cards you were under the eagle eye of the observer or checker as we
now tend to call them.

A Classic high speed DAB

A few simple scores could be achieved, a single dab would score 1, touching more than once was
a 3, and the worst result was a 5 for, failure, becoming unseated or both feet on the same side of
the machine, crossing a boundary, or failure of the front wheel to rotate in a forward direction, or
what we would call a stop. An in balance feet up situation was NEVER penalised! There were NO
gates for different classes. In terms of skill the rider had to negotiate all the obstacles within the
section by first finding the correct line, or a line that he or she could ride minimizing the hazards.
Next select an appropriate gear for the conditions and machine and then ride the given section
using  balance and throttle control to complete the task without incurring any penalties. … and
if you could do that then you got the covetted CLEAN. The basic requirements of a GOOD Trials
rider were;

1. Good natural balance.
2. Throttle control.
3. Experience.

Trials machines were either adapted road going bikes or detuned scramblers but the general
build requirements were always the same.

1. A low compression engine
2. Low gearing
3. Responsive carburation off idle
4. Large weighty flywheel action
5. Suitable suspension
6. The highest ground clearance that could be achieved

…… and more recently we have seen all the variations of head angle, footrest positioning,
handlebar shape and position and so on.

The first major change was the introduction of the “2” which we certainly needed to show the
differences between the “sit down” leg it to eternity ride, and the one dab shortly after entry,
100 yards of feet up brilliance in a muddy ditch, only to dab again just before the ends card and
get the same 3 !

The Good Old CENTIPEDE 3

So when did things change? Well the introduction of “Kickstart” and Arena Trials saw the start
of the hopping and bopping, nose wheelies and all the rest. As I said earlier in “real” trials no one
would penalize you for stationary in balance manoeuvres and as turns got tighter and tighter
eventually things started to change. Previously if the turn was too tight you only had two choices,
either run the front wheel up the bank and wheelie it off onto the line or take a HUGE planned DAB.
With the advent of the”trick rider” the machine could be run up and down the bank several times,
in a series of “three point turn ” manoeuvres until the bike was pointing where you wanted it….
very clever, and all is well unless you put your foot down.

At the end of the 70’s machines are certainly much more capable and organizers are making trials
harder and harder to the point where some sections are “all or nothing” and have moved from
“challenging” to “downright dangerous”.

Another Clanging 5, Scotland 1978

Take an event like the Scottish Six Days of 1978 when it has become a “World Round” and the
winner Martin Lampkin loses 99 and yours truly, who would finish in the first 15 or so in an Open
to Center loses that many a day! Believe me when normally you are in the upper echelons and
are now losing 100 out of 150, trials is not the fun and enjoyable sport you signed up for. Very
similar to the last few rounds of the current World Series where the top men are on similar scores!

Even the best lost 99

As we have seen, techniques, styles of riding and the now continuous use of the clutch are all part
of the modern scene and sections themselves seem to have gone to levels that only a few can
achieve. Dogged determination, willpower and strength will not prevail up a 10 foot wall nor leaping
giant chasms to land on another rock, and if being stationary with a foot down only scores a one
then I’m losing my mind! Thank goodness we still have the Vintage scene where old bikes can be
ridden in the more traditional style that I grew up with. So when it comes to the final decision, stop
or no stop…… well I don’t want to stop so I guess I’ll just keep doing what I do best, feet up,
pretty good balance, no clutch, and delicate throttle control, it worked when I was 16 and now the
numbers are reversed it still works today!

The way “I” like it

Tony Down…… No intention of stopping!

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THAT TWINSHOCK CLASS?

THAT TWINSHOCK CLASS?

THAT TWINSHOCK CLASS ?

SWM in action in Canada

Once again over the Donner weekend there is a fair bit of discussion over whether AHRMA should
add another class to encompass the “Last of the Twinshocks”. I know it has been discussed by
many and has been rejected by AHRMA on several previous attempts to get them included. Of
course not being at the meetings it is difficult to know the reasoning for not letting these machines
in.

A Fantastic Fantic in Spain

Over the last few years many National events must have run at a loss through lack of entries and
with fuel costs where they are today I’m sure many more will be in the same boat this year.

It would seem the membership, in the main, are for the inclusion of these machines yet we hear
that “the powers that be” continually reject the proposal as it will need another line? Personally I
would have thought that 4 lines are enough. The newer machines 1980-1985 can quite happily
run on the 1,2 and 3 lines for their 3 groups and would therefore not cause any friction from riders
competing in the other designated classes. There are many trials that already run this class calling
it “Modern Twinshock” and indeed they swell the numbers at the event but of course are not
competing for any National Championship.

The Montesa 330 with that supersoft Clutch

Maybe there is some conflict of interest out there? Surely anything that is done, or proposed is
there for the good of all and the sport in particular. There will come a time when there are NO
more Ariels to rebuild, NO more Cubs and Villiers engined machines. We can’t all own one, and
many do not want to.  However, there are a large group of beautiful machines out there rotting
away with no place to ride and they are currently being treated like illegal immigrants!

Another SWM

It can also be argued that we have a Girder Class and again three skill levels within that. Just
how many Girder machines are still out there, and how often do they ever compete on a
head-to-head basis? We have riders joining us and competing on our given lines riding modern
monoshocks and enjoying their own competition. Of course our sections are not as challenging
as those laid out for a modern trial, nor would we want them to be but that doesn’t decrease
the enjoyment for the competitors who are riding much more capable machines. It may just be
that some of those riding a modern monoshock may buy or build and older machine and
compete in one of our given classes.

Modern Riders in AHRMA Sections at Donner

If only it had a Flywheel!

Another area of friction, and again as a competitor rather than organiser, is the clash between
AHRMA and ITSA which seems a little childish to me. The ITSA style trials of course are 10 sections
for each class with no splits so none of those annoying “5’s” for missing a split. Each class rides
it’s own “tough” 5 sections and also rides the next 5 sections from the next lower group. A lot of
work for the organisers maybe, or is it ? It might be just as quick when you consider the number
of cards, stakes, stapling and writing that is involved trying to find 4 appropriate lines in one given
section. But the big difference seems to be in the cost of entries at these co promoted events and
what your entry fees give you in respect to Championship Points. Seems the 2 factions should be
working closer together in this area to please all.

Another Fantic in Canada

So back to the main thread, ITSA allows machines of this given period in and AHRMA doesn’t.
Surely ITSA cannot expand it’s area of operations and grow if it doesn’t support the AHRMA
memberships wish to include these machines. If they are given the new “Class” then they are
elligible to ride in both competitions and may encourage riders to support both bodies in their
endeavors to increase entry size and increase the popularity of the sport.

A Late model Majesty in Canadian action

Let’s have that “New Class” and argue over what to call it later, but let’s see the last of the
Bultaco’s, Montesa’s TLR’s, Cagivas, SWM’s and Fantic’s all out there competing ……. as at the
moment it’s a crimal waste of some beautiful machines which are sitting idle.

 Do we really want them to rot away?

When all is said and done these are the last machines of an era, and maybe the best there ever
was. It’s only a 6 year time frame so why, oh why, is there so much resistance to recognizing the
last stepping stone to modern monoshocks in our trialing heritage?

Tony Down …… in shock…… TWINSHOCK!

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  • 7/25/2008 6:39 PM Dave Rhodes wrote:
    Hey Tony – I agree with your point exactly – maybe there is even a class for TY mono’s only. – Anyway the people who make the rules sometimes forget to talk to the riders with experience, which ever side of the pond you live. – Thanks for using my pics by the way – no charge ( A “BY line would have been nice though) – Outlaw Dave
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  • 7/26/2008 4:36 PM Glenn Swanson wrote:
    I think the AHRMA should let anything produced with drum brakes ride !Even the few aircooled monos out there !I have some local freinds that ride ahrma and always want me to go with them , but why if I can’t ride my Fantic ? It would almost double the # of events I could compete in … I ride modern events on their lines and have FUN , so why can’t it work the other way ? And did you see the fantic 300 Adrian had on consignment ???
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    1. 7/29/2008 1:06 PM Gerry wrote:
      The 300 that was on lewisport should be making its way up to Canada in the next week or so, I bought it! and the picture of “another SWM” in Tony’s article is me. The SWM is half torn apart getting ready for a restoration.
      Back on topic, i cant see why the class would not include all twinshock drum brake bikes.
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  • 7/26/2008 5:05 PM Fred Martinson wrote:
    I sent in a letter for about 4 years
    to the higher up’s for the rule change
    meeting, turned down each time, with them saying it would destory the vintage trials, the rigid and girder bikes, are rare at events.
    You have to get the people out riding a bike that they can afford to ride and
    then, maybe, they’ll find a cub or similar bike to ride after the “hook” is set.
    You can look at the 1 line now, only
    one class is riding it.

    Fred
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  • 7/31/2008 9:51 PM Steveo wrote:
    twinshocks-the more-the merrier.As long as the organizers put on events and classes,we’ll ride them.The modern twin shocks,such as majestys and fantics ride so well that they are like cheating as compared to riding the older models.As long as there’s a class for them,they too should be able to come out and play on their trials toys with the rest of us!
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  • 8/19/2008 4:18 PM Bruce Carman wrote:
    I have a real problem with people thinking there’s a clash between AHRMA and ITSA. That’s just not so . Is it not possible for ITSA to offer riders the chance to ride a different format with a group that does only trials without people getting the idea that we’re in any way against AHRMA .We are here to offer an alternative , with a challenging ,different series. As far as twinshock in AHRMA , I think it’s been shot down for the simple reason that it’s not in the scope of what AHRMA wants to do. Why should they become ITSA just to pull in a few more riders when there is enough problems now in applying the 5 lines now in the rule book to the existing riders and bikes . Please WE ARE FOR TRIALS BY TRIALS RIDERS , WE ARE NOT AGAINST ANYONE , AHRMA OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION . Bruce A Carman, Vice President ITSA
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  • 10/25/2008 10:33 AM Doug wrote:
    The solution my be using a Mooreland gate trails scoring system. We have been using that system for several years in non AMA events. One course is laid out, each rider can determine their line and number of points lost or earned. No checkers are needed and Vintage, 80’s monoshock ( don’t forget the Fantic bike with drum rear disc front) and modern bikes all compete together. It is a ideal solution and is bring new rider to the sport we love. Last event I rode my modern Monetsa with a friend of mine on a XL350 Honda, sorry to say he ranked higher then me in our respective classes at the end of the day. Bottom line is we both enjoyed the day, the event was well attended, and he is now looking for a more serious vintage trials bike. what happens when the Chicom’s realize there is a market for twin shock, air cooled drum brake bikes, they own a lot of the old tooling, I bet we see new TL250 knock offs in the near future.
    Doug
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  • 10/25/2008 6:54 PM Fred Martinson wrote:
    If anyone is interested, the gate trials (Moreland rules) are on the Wyoming homepage at

    http://www.geocities.com/twoftup/scoring.html
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  • 10/26/2008 3:53 PM Doug wrote:
    For those interested Carl Peters is hosting a vintage event November 2 utilizing the Mooreland rules.
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AHRMA VINTAGE TRIALS DONNER DAY 2 2008

AHRMA VINTAGE TRIALS DONNER DAY 2 2008

AHRMA VINTAGE TRIALS DONNER DAY 2 2008

The Scene of “The Night Before”

Not quite so much smoke from the fires this morning and an earlier start. Having trouble deciding
which bike to ride today. The Cub rides so nicely but stick with the plan and get some more
experience on the big Enfield. A few changes of faces this morning, some only came for one day,
Fred Martinson, still walking wounded, can’t handle a second day. Will Hilgenburg, after a Zero day
on the Cotton yesterday is checking as is Derek Belvoir. Don Kelley is out on his new Dick Mann toy
and Dick himself is riding his newest creation the DMW, and Sam Vanderhoof just made it before the
rider’s meeting. It looks like Gene will be riding as well!

Today we are to the right of the lodge and I’m told the sections are a little harder and I have only
seen the 2 close to the start. As I’m not in a rush I can start at 1 which opens between two big logs
on the ski slope, some tight turns in and out of the ditch for the 1 & 2 lines then a few more turns
uphill on the slope which may well cut up as the day goes on. Slip through for the first clean of the
morning and off to 2.

In the Purple Livery the RE on Section 1

At 2 there is quite a crowd  but the section seems to be riding well. Plenty of loose rolling rocks on
the turns and a little mud to contend with. Downhill from the start, left and right turns then a squirt
up the bank and behind the tree to the exit. Still clean round the corner where young Will is checking.

No 3 has some awkward looking rocks to turn on just after the start then a left turn over a ridge and
down a nasty knarly looking step to the exit. The step could be interesting if it starts breaking up.

A short ride over the hill to see Derek on 4. The only major problem here is a tightish right turn in
some loose dirt and small crumbly rocks. A little ambitious and weight in the wrong place the front
wheel plows but a fistful of power and a lot of body lean drags the tractor round the corner.

A slow ride over the mountain following the hiking trail is great fun and reminds me of some of the
tracks across the Scottish Highlands which, just maybe, I might get to see again next year. Certainly
a “a good to be alive” feeling as you ride round up here in the cool mountain air.

5, 6 and 7 are all together but are not causing any hold ups. A nasty rock at the top of 5 could grab
some marks from anyone with low ground clearance but the Enfield slips through before the adverse
where modern tires just go exactly where you want with absoluetly no slippage, from there just a
small step into a turn and the exit.

6 is almost continuous and requires a bit of power to climb up the adverse bed rock with it’s d rings.
Must alter the jetting before Casper! However she is up and out and on for the last in the group
No 7.

Section 7 looks a lot trickier than most with lots of choices of line. Simple entry, line up for the hill
then wide open bed rock before a left right on the top and another choice of lines to the exit. The
climb makes the old girl splutter on power but I suspect it would go up there on idle.

Down the mountain to 8 which actually has mud! Yipee!! Along the side of the pond over a step
and then up that big “cobblestone” rock and now a left descending turn to a split around the tree
and run out to the exit. The tractor holds it’s line on the adverse muddy entry and handles well for
the rest of the section.

Back down the path to the lodge to number 9. This seems to be the “gimmee” of the day although
I did see some people lose a mark or two here probably thinking it was a gimmee! First loop clean
so try and concentrate for the second lap.

Wolfy on a “Barnstormer!” …. Dan wondering “What did he have for breakfast?”

Anything you can do……..

Just one point covers 1,2, 3 …….but second sucks!

Loop 2 and getting to grips with the Dragon

As expected 1 is cutting up so just a little more care on the turns, 2 and 3 no change, and a better
personal ride on 4. 5, 6 and 7 are the same and 8 has got a bit more mud and the adverse entry is
getting slippy and taking a few marks. Another clean loop so out for the last round with plenty of
time.

Regular Trials Central contributor…. “Swooshdave” on the 3 line Section1

Two 2nd places in MC Exp for Mike Salsman

Nick in the dust or is it smoke?

Just having fun

Andy on Ray Iddon’s “One Trick Cub”

I think the ladies have been on the 4 line long enough… time to move up

No 1 has piles of loose dirt on the turns but a bit of showboating here for the “camera lady” and
on up the hill to 2, 3 and 4 which don’t cause any problems. Crash into the big rock on 5 but the
bulldozer pushes all aside and on I go. Not the best line on 6 but through for the clean.

Lining up for 7 I see someone rotovate a big rock right onto the line. I elect to ride over it and by
the time the backwheel is over I’m further into the turn than I want to be and as I make the line up
turn the back wheel catches a “roller” which throws me off line for the hill and in the surprise the
first competition mark on the Enfield is squandered! Not bad though 69 cleans until she lost her
virginity! A pat on the tank and old faithful finishes off the day with good cleans on 8 and 9.

With my 1 mark loss my weekend gains me 3 nice bottles and 60 Championship points, a great
ride from Ralph Foster in Modern Classic Expert thrashing the opposition. Modern Classic
Intermediate, with Fred away, was another close contest with Randy taking it on 3 and Wolfy
having a barnstormer of a ride on 4 and a tie with Dan also on 4 dabs for the day. This time Dan
won the “age” tie breaker! Ed just a little way back on 9 but creeping ever closer in his new class
…. it won’t be long. I think the new boots helped. Gene wrapped up Modern Classic Novice with
an easy win and Len Sims had a clean ride on the Rigid Cub. Overall 2 great days of riding in near
idyllic conditions. Thanks to everyone that contributed.

Last time up 1

One turn to go

THANKS FOR A GREAT WEEKEND!!

We elected to take things easy so we will stay another night before the 907 mile trip over to
Dolores.

Tony & Brenda

If you rode you will be on film!

P.S. Having just cleaned the Tractor the big crashing clang on the rocks of 5 broke the toe
completely off the rear brake pedal!

P.P.S  www.trialsphoto.com now has ALL the Photos from COTOPAXI, MILLIKEN
                                               and DONNER …. close on 500 shots, you must like
                                               one or two???

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  • 7/31/2008 10:03 PM Steveo wrote:
    thanks for the Donner trial event info Tony,a job well done,defiantly the next best thing to being there.My thanks to you and Brenda for your excellent reporting and photos!
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AHRMA VINTAGE TRIALS DONNER DAY 1 2008

AHRMA VINTAGE TRIALS DONNER DAY 1 2008

AHRMA VINTAGE TRIALS DONNER DAY 1 2008

 A pleasant Saturday morning with wisps of smoke from the Californian fires driffing through the
pines. By 0800 the parking lot is filling up with familiar faces and some notable absentees. By my
count we should be up to around 40 riders which is quite impressive considering the cost of fuel.

Sign up continues in a well ordered manner and  I’m hearing stories of discontent about me riding
in TWO classes. Well, sorry boys, the rules say you can do it so unless they change the rules I will
stick with my season plans.

So the intention is to ride the Cub in Classic Expert then if time permits run as many loops as I can
on the Oilfield in Premier Hwy Intermediate. Remember My card is stamped Intermediate and I can
elect to ride in a HIGHER class if I so wish. I cannot drop down from Int to Nov without AHRMA
permission but that is not the case here as I’m riding the 2 line on the Cub and the PI line on the
Enfield.

Briefing over, start where you like, so I start on 8 by the lodge and make a relatively simple section
look incredibly difficult! Tons of power “body english” and climbing all over the bike for balance.
I achieve a clean and anybody watching must have thought it was a pretty difficult section.

The “Emporer’s New Clothes”

Ed looking “good” on the bottom of 8

Round the back of the lodge to 9 which is a series of log crossings depending on the line then a
wander round the tree before making your way back through an open rock field with a variety of
lines to the exit. The chosen line goes well and another clean is punched.

Fred slips through 9 en-route to the MC Int win and a Zero day  

Trundling through 9 on the Cub also for a Zero day

Up the hill to No 1 but there must be 20 riders waiting here so bypass this one and up the hill to
Don Kelly on 2. Simple entry into the trees but an awkward left hander with a limb just in the right
position to cause a problem or two. I saw Derek Belvoir fending this one off with a huge planned
dab. A meander through the trees taking care to follow the splits and then a step up onto the bank
before a right turn, tightness determined by line into a pile of loose pine needles and cones before
the exit step. A clean here despite the mosquitoes!

3 has a tricky turn uphill in loose dirt so get the weight back and delicate throttle control, stay high
on the adverse and idle through the nadgery to the exit. It works as planned so down the hill to
4 & 5.

Section 4 is a variation on a theme from previous years and as I arrive I see Rick Wolff off his bike
on the adverse bank which is pretty crumbly. A little faster than required up the bank and a bit of
panic braking to make the turn before dropping back in the rock filled ditch for the left turn then
follow the dry river bed to the exit. Over half way and still clean.

In the trees for 5 with a downhill ride in the narrow ditch into a right, left through the trees and
pine mulch before a log crossing and left turn to the exit. All goes well here.

Out of the trees and a ride to the top of the hill for the interesting Section 6. A double step start
and then a thinking man’s choice of routes either dropping down and tackling a series of up and
over crevasses or straight on and taking a wide left through 180 on top of a flat outcrop. With all
that behind you a “Scottish” style uphill path of jumbled rocks and a gentle run back to checker
Gene at the finish. I take the straight on approach and it works although I don’t see anyone else
using the line.

Debbie Poole, hard working as ever, has 7 and this is a solid bed rock section which is not going to
change unless you are riding a backhoe! Nothing loose, just tricky and stay on the line. Good to
see they have used “Duck Tape” to secure the splits as in bed rock the markers can so easily get
knocked over with just the slightest touch.

Just No1 to get through and it is quite a long section and just walking it I nearly missed a sneaky
little split. Downhill across the bed rock, a jink around a split, back across that bedrock to line up
for the up and down, come down the adverse and a slow uphill ride on the line to the exit. The
young lads have the section well in control with some  “checking” skills being exercised well in
excess of their experience. A clean loop so back to the start and see if it can be continued.

Dan Straka half way up 8

Ralph Foster with a bit of aviation on the 1 line on 8

Nick Turner’s Cub get airborne in the hands of his SA Friend

Loop 2 goes well with the only surprise being section 5 where a big rock has rolled in the ditch and
the left right turn has become deep compost and took a lot of effort to get through. Loop 3 also
goes well and another surprise on 5 which has now all packed down again and is a lot easier. By
the time I get to 9 Rick has taken over checking having decided 2 loops was enough as the BSA
wasn’t on full song.

I only have 30 mins left to get out and get the Oilfield round on the PI line. The Enfield rides nicely
despite it’s massive weight and  I creep round two loops without the loss of a mark which is pleasing
although the carburation still isn’t quite there for the “power on” climbs at 7000 feet. Something to
work on before Casper where I will be riding all 3 days on the Bullet.

Chuggerdy, chug on 8

Advance warning for the turn

285 lbs of Best of British, and the bike’s heavy too!

Overall, a great day with no marks lost on 5 loops so tomorrow we will just use the Enfield and
keep everybody happy with the “2 bike rule”.

The “Trophies” are as always excellent and drink well. Very pleased to see a Tiger Cub on this years
bottle and I must brush up on my memory banks to remember who the rider is?

Tony Down

…..and today Brenda is in full cry with the cameras! If you rode you will be on film.

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DONNER THE ARRIVAL

DONNER THE ARRIVAL

DONNER, THE ARRIVAL

On our way, at last!

The plan is coming together but as always there just aren’t enough hours in the day. The bus is
picked up on Tuesday and the hub cap is finally here but the decal for the center isn’t. No matter,
RV Renovators fix it and on goes the long awaited cap. 30 miles later I pull into the yard only to find
it is missing!

Trying to get everything on board on Tuesday night seems an impossible task and needless to say
it doesn’t get done. The bikes are loaded and then changed as the Hardley is too big to use the
center position so it has to go back left so that the more upright trials machines can get their
handlebars ahead. With the bikes in, the pool filter has to be cleaned and backwashed and then it’s
bedtime after boxing up all the e-bay items to post while we are in Dolores.

Intentions of leaving by 0900 fall by the wayside and in 114 temps we finally set sail just after 12.
The 570 miles to Mina NV is not looking good so we elect to stop 100 miles short at another one
horse town called Goldfield. This was once the biggest town in Nevada but today it’s not looking like
much and even the first mate is reluctant to walk 200 yards to the bar.

60 miles in, down Wickenburg way

NOTHING AZ, and even less now the Old Man has died

…..and there’s a change in the weather!

The NEW Bridges at the Hoover,…….. coming soon

…..and it will avoid this!

Thursday we make good time running up 95 and along 80. We get a call from Ed and Evelyn to say
there are extensive roadworks at the usual turn off so as we are only passing Reno we get off on
the Donner Pass road and descend down to the Lake and then up the backway over the mountain
to the Ski Lodge and start area. This road will be a lot of fun on the Harley but takes a bit of work in
the wheelhouse to get the Starship round the bends.

The Wheelhouse on the Starship…… “4 points to LARBOARD Mr ZULU”

With plenty of time and seemingly with all the sections laid out Ed and I take a preview of the
Saturday sections. They are all cleanable but of course can all grab marks, with rolling fir cones and
that mystery rock that appears like a magnet and gets under a wheel.

Soda Springs Post Office prior to a little Road Racing lunacy

Friday and some ebay stuff to post and then a run down the hill to the lake. Fortunately the post
office is in Soda Springs and unlike Phoenix, no waiting. A fantastic ride down the hill until we catch
up with some “local” who like most car drivers you catch up with on mountain roads then takes one
of two actions. They either Slam on the brakes and pull over violently or in this case they become
“Lewis Hamilton” and drive like a possessed buffoon showing their amazing skills! Well it was certainly entertaining watching the inside wheels lift!!! The Lake area was very pretty but we couldn’t find a bar
or restaurant anywhere, but there must be one, so maybe a repeat run next year and a great excuse
for a WFO ride up and down the hill.

Catching up with the locals

Inside wheel about to LIFT!

Friday night and a few more arrivals but it’s looking a bit thin by previous years standards. All the
“barbies” are ready and after steaks and drinkies time to think of the trials to come. ……and man, oh,
man these mosies are biting like hell!

Tony & Brenda on location Donner Ski Ranch

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THE RUN UP TO DONNER

THE RUN UP TO DONNER

THE RUN UP TO DONNER

What a fantastic place for a Trial! Lake Donner below

 Only a week away but time to start thinking Vintage trials again and one of my favourite venues,
Donner Ski Ranch. Matt Hillgenberg of Speed & Sport fame lays on a fantastic 2 day and with
temperatures now at 112 in Arizona the thought of a few days at 70 is very appealing!

2006 with some great sections. I loved this “Cobblestone” Climb

Looking at the record of my 2 previous visits I have had some pretty good rides at Donner and
often either the sections look more difficult than they actually are or maybe I ride well  up there.
Of the 4 rides I’ve had I have lost a total of 5 marks  with 2 wins and 2 seconds. This year I hope
for better and maybe I’ll ride three events, 2 on the Cub and one the Oilfield. We will see if the
loops are short enough to get 6 loops in to everyone elses 3.

By the Lodge Day 1 2006

Where it was Won & Lost Day1 2006

It’s been a while since the last event at Milliken back in May having missed the Rocky Mountain
2 Day at Bull Hollow and nothing in AZ either. So, keeness is up, the weight is down to 195, no
practice, no excuses, I’m ready!

Currently the bus is away having final wood panels fitted, the last of the “blow out” damage
repaired and the AC checked over. Those that read the AHRMA sagas will remember that last year
with the NEW coach the fan belt in the generator snapped about 50 miles away from home on our
trek across the desert and the even hotter run across Nevada to our nightstop in Mina. Brenda
ended up spraying driver and panting dogs with a plant mister until we eventually plugged into
50 Amp and had full AC! I’m told another sweatfest will be the END so everything must be checked
or there will be trouble.

Even Mud & Water 2007

This year the game plan is to go up on Wednesday to Mina, cover the last 300 on Thursday
morning and be there around lunchtime for some light training drinking and a ride round the
mountains to check the sections. Ed and Evelyn will be there as well and Matt should have
everything in hand with his helper Don Kelly.

The other side of the Lodge 2007

I love the atmosphere of this event, the ski lodge, mountains, crisp air and you can even smoke on
the patio. The whole area is roped off for the trials fraternity only, and everybody is very pro
motorcycles. Of course the Trophies are also excellent with fine contents and you get to keep the
bottle afterwards. This year we don’t have the “helpful Rv’ers” with us so Brenda won’t get wound
up although NINE dogs could try her patience.  (now 8)

Not a bad wine either!…… or so I’m told

Not sure if we will leave there on the Sunday or we might just leave on Monday and travel across
to Colorado and set up there for another week while this trying period of our lives moves on.
Having just checked Mapquest it’s quite a run from Donner to Dolores so the plan may get changed
again.

With all the e-bay stuff I will be like a travelling salesman hawking all my wares in the trailer which
is going to be rather full with the Hardley now joining us as the Dolores transport, and that may be
up for it’s last ride as it joins the long list of saleable items.

No shortage of natural sections

Back to the Donner review, I wonder what the turn out will be this year with the ever increasing
cost of fuel. Long distance One Day Trials seem to be falling by the wayside and the 2 day has to
be the way to go. Donner has had some good entries with numbers up close to the 50 mark in
previous years but the extra 2 bucks a gallon since last year may take it’s toll. There is another
Vintage trial planned for the same day which really doesn’t strike me as being too bright and will
obvoiusly affect turn out at both events. Dumb!!

Well WE will be there!

Tony Down     -1 puppy!

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